EVE Search - Sticky:[Odyssey] Tech 1 Battleships

Check My IP Information

All Channels

Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sticky:[Odyssey] Tech 1 Battleships - Minmatar

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]


Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 14 post(s)
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 589	Posted - 2013.04.09 07:03:00 - [1] - Quote Please, please take the feedback you're getting in this thread seriously and consider swapping the roles of the Tempest and Typhoon and adjusting their respective stats accordingly. It would also be a good idea to revisit the drone nerf to the Typhoon while you're at it. With these latest rounds of "balancing" I'm seeing more and more of the Minmatar racial flavor disappearing. You're making Matari ships bulkier, slower and blowing up their sig radius. It just doesn't feel quite right in practical terms or in keeping with the lore of the game. Guess I'd better start training Amarr BS as they're looking like the clear winners unless things change dramatically. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 594	Posted - 2013.04.10 19:45:00 - [2] - Quote I'm still not happy with the Typhoon becoming a weaker, armored Raven although, what you're now proposing is a bit better than the original muddled vision. Since it appears that you're dead set on turning the Typhoon into a rusty Raven please at least consider giving it back the drone bay flexibility of the current in-game iteration. As far as the Tempest, thanks for listening and returning it to its rightful place as an "attack" BS. I can live with what you're proposing now, although the Megathron is faster. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 598	Posted - 2013.04.11 04:19:00 - [3] - Quote Ersahi Kir wrote: Schmell wrote: Oh you dont realize yet how powerful explosion velocity bonus is. Its not weaker, it is much much stronger than raven. The issue isn't which one is stronger, it's that they are way too similar. Other than tanking choice they were functional mirrors of each other in PvP. This. ^^ Yes, I cross-trained Caldari and missiles a long time ago but, if I wanted a Raven I'd fly a Raven. I want a versatile Typhoon and not a "Minmatar Raven" with some slapped on as a concession un-bonused turrets and a nerfed drone bay. Come on CCP, you redid the new Scythe as a split weapon platform, you can do it with the Typhoon as well. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 609	Posted - 2013.04.12 15:34:00 - [4] - Quote How about a comment or two from CCP Rise on the unfolding debate? What are your thoughts on some of the ideas presented since the second iteration of the original proposals were made? What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 618	Posted - 2013.04.14 18:19:00 - [5] - Quote I support Pattern's Tempest proposal. I hope CCP Rise and the balance team take a serious look at it. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 624	Posted - 2013.04.15 16:13:00 - [6] - Quote More pages of debate and still no comment from CCP Rise as to what's going on... A little official communication from the balance team would be greatly appreciated! What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 640	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:25:00 - [7] - Quote It's been well over a week and still not a word from Rise in any of these threads. What's going on? Is it too much to expect some kind of dev response to pages and pages of player ideas and concerns? Come on CCP, let's have a discussion and not a monologue. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 652	Posted - 2013.04.22 16:28:00 - [8] - Quote Just ignore Naomi. She has some insane idea that all Minmatar ships are OP and is on a crusade to get them nerfed even more into the ground. Under the character portrait is a little triangle you can click on to get a drop-down menu of options. One of those options is 'Hide Posts'. It works like a charm for trolls like Naomi. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 672	Posted - 2013.04.25 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote Can we please stop the bickering and juvenile personal attacks and return to focus on constructive suggestions? It's fine to disagree on how to solve a problem but, there's no need to be disagreeable jerks. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 675	Posted - 2013.04.26 00:03:00 - [10] - Quote Seeing as how this thread has degenerated into an insult throwing, e-peen waving contest (on the part of some, anyway) and there's no comment forthcoming from CCP Rise, there's not much point in continuing to monitor it. I just hope that CCP takes all the constructive feedback into consideration and doesn't further neuter Minmatar BS. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.

Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 687	Posted - 2013.04.29 16:35:00 - [11] - Quote Can all you Amarr zealots please get to the Amarr BS and laser re-balance threads and argue for changes there? We don't need any more nerfs to Minmatar ships, thanks. P.S. Try opening your minds and realizing that the nerfs to Minmatar ships over the last year or so (along with major buffs to other races' ships) make your constant whining about "Winmatar" totally invalid and only makes you look foolish. Also, if you'd ever jump on the test servers and actually look to see what Devs are flying, you'd see that many of them use Amarrian ships. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 689	Posted - 2013.04.30 15:32:00 - [12] - Quote Should we send out a search party for Rise? Hello, Rise? Are you there...? It sure would be nice to have some comments from you now that the party at the top of the world is over. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 699	Posted - 2013.05.03 05:15:00 - [13] - Quote Hagika wrote: Hmm well lets see. Battlecruiser sig, battleship tank. Amazing speed and awesome firepower, and with arty its murders most things in comes in contact with, and it can challenge the best of other races. That is just one of the matar batttleships. The maelstrom is a monster in every sense of the word and matar ships represent the strongest BS fleets in game. Alpha arty fleets. In fact matar ships are the most common ships in pvp and have enjoyed eve superiority for over 2+ years. Saying Matar ships dont have any advantages over other races is like saying a fat kid hates being in a candy store. You can smell the bull from miles away. Matar pilots claiming thier ships are junk are people who want to continue their reign of eve dominance. To which devs are nerfing shield resist tank bonuses and will make alpha fleets even more dominant. If you're seriously agreeing with anything Naomi the troll said you've lost any credibility or right to speak further in this thread. Two years ago you (and the troll) might have been correct but, Minmatar ships have been nerfed either directly (Hurricane, for example) or, in comparison to other racial ships due to a combination of Minmatar ships being unchanged and the other races' ships getting better (Rifter vs other T1 frigates). Please stop with the nonsense about Minmatar ships being OP. They're not and not by a damned long way. If you want to see something scary and bordering on being OP check the proposed changes to the Armageddon or Hyperion. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 715	Posted - 2013.05.05 04:49:00 - [14] - Quote The combination of these rebalance efforts and the large rise in battleship build prices will cause fewer people to fly the things, especially terrible under performers like the Tempest and Raven. Maybe this is CCP's intention. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 744	Posted - 2013.05.19 07:08:00 - [15] - Quote I give up. After all the solid ideas given in these many pages to bring the Tempest up to par with the other battleships, all we get is 7 m/s and less tank? Seriously? Please explain to me the role you see the Tempest as filling, Rise. I'm very curious to know because as things stand now, it's outclassed by every other battleship (with the possible exception of the Raven). There is absolutely no reason to use a Tempest vs. another BS. None. The poor Tempest is simply sub-par in any potential role. The lack of focus, poor DPS, poor slot layout, poor tank and lack of speed/agility combined with the upcoming price increases mean that the Tempest will continue to languish underused. Also, what's up with making Minmatar ships more massive, slower and less agile? I don't understand. Can you please explain this? Thankfully I trained up my missile skills long ago. I guess I'll stock up on Typhoons if I want to stick with flying Minmatar BS. Many thanks to those of you who have fought bravely over the last 30 or so pages by offering some interesting and viable ideas on how to save the Tempest. Maybe one day we'll get a usable Tempest. Sadly, that day won't be June 4th. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 752	Posted - 2013.05.20 20:36:00 - [16] - Quote Garresh wrote: ...I don't like where the tempest is right now, but I'd say it's safe bet if it doesn't turn out well, it will be fixed within 2 months. I'd like to see anyone in this thread do better. I'll quote this back to you when the Tempest remains as broken as it is now in August. As to your second assertion, I disagree. There have been many viable ideas proposed in this thread by longtime and very knowledgeable players that would have helped bring the Tempest up to par with the other battleships. Almost any of those would have been better than what we're finally getting in Odyssey. The fact that Rise seems to think the current 'Pest is fine, as evidenced by his statements and his last very modest tweaks, don't bode well for you winning that "safe bet". What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 757	Posted - 2013.05.21 15:41:00 - [17] - Quote Looks like it's time for me to get training for those T2 large blasters, rails and lasers or, buy a stack of Typhoons. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.